Modify x,y,z orientation


(Alex) #1

Hi all,

This question is mainly directed at the creators of Hype:

Would it be possible to modify the orientation of the xyz axis in future versions of Hype? For example I want to rotate an object on my z axis, but I want my z axis the set slightly askew. This is often possible in CAD software and a few animation programs, and it would open up a whole new set of possibilities for animation, however I have no idea if it would work within the parameters you guys have set, seeing as Hype animation seems to run in 2D for the most part. hence the question :smiley:


(Mark Hunte) #2

I am probably missing what you want but do you mean this… as in at the bottom of this image “rotation” ?


(Alex) #3

no I mean having the ability to move the xyz axis on which the rotation angles are based.


(Mark Hunte) #4

Yer I am clearly not getting, There is an X,Y offset property that can be adjusted just below where the rotation is.

But maybe you could post a link to an example so this thicko can see what you are trying to do… :grin:


(Alex) #5

this might help. The idea is if you create a tube in illustrator and extrude it on the z axis at an angle other than 0, you can then bring it in to HYPE and rotate it on that modified z angle, in essence I’m asking i it could be possible to move the xyz axis


(Mark Hunte) #6

I assume then that what you import would not be an image then.


#7

honesty is the best policy!

@Tart-webdesign

What you are asking for is a kind of option to change the viewport angle so that you can view the axis at a different angle? Like in a 3D environment?

Hype does retain perspective when you transform an object using rotation but I feel this is not what you are referring to.

Also the picture you show looks like it has a 3d object in it. I think this may be a little out of scope within Hype


(Alex) #8

yep it would, you design or draw an object designed round a offset z axis, and then bring it in to hype, then move the z axis so it lines up with the z axis of your object, then rotate your object on the modified z axis.

I’m having trouble explaining it so I don’t blame you for not getting it ^^’


(Trey Yancy) #9

Create your Z rotation for an object, then, with the object still selected, go to the Arrange menu and select Group. Now rotate the X and Y of the group.

RotateExample.hype.zip (10.3 KB)


(Alex) #10

Right, turns out Mr Hunte is right to feel confused, I was asking a stupid question.
I’ve figured out what I mean, the problem isn’t to do with moving the axises, its to do with the fact that you can’t (as far as I can tell) put truly 3-d objects into a hype project, and that if you design a object in illustrator that looks 3d (using 3D styling), and then rotate it in hype, it rotates the 2d plane its been drawn on. So I guess my question is can you import a true 3d object into hype and then manipulate it using the rotate tool? and if it is possible what format and program would be used? took a while but I got there in the end.


#11

Natively …

  1. Cannot import a 3D object into Hype
  2. Cannot manipulate it in the same way you would in the 3D environment you created it in.

The “import”, if any, would be in an image format (2d) and Hype has no ability (yet :slight_smile: ) to import and manipulate in other formats.

You could use a 3rd party Javascript library that supports 3D objects, like three.js and use this in the Hype environment I would guess. But this is more for the end result (preview and export) rather than continuos working on the 3D object. i.e no ability to rotate object and animate in the Hype environment.


(Alex) #12

Well thanks fore finally clearing that up! So I guess my msg to hype creators would be a plea to introduce 3d manipulation in future versions :stuck_out_tongue:

again thx everyone for the input


#13

yep … 3D animation would be great and if it’s in the pool to be added to a future version then I think it’ll be a while before we see it :wink:


(Mark Hunte) #14

Phew… :smile:

I should have elaborated when I said [quote=“MarkHunte, post:6, topic:7602, full:true”]
I assume then that what you import would not be an image then.
[/quote]

Is what I was getting at…

Well done Mr @DBear for untangling that one…


(Trey Yancy) #15

No you can’t, but there is an old trick that AE folks used to use a few years back. You can duplicate a rotated object, fill it with an imported gradient, set it behind and offset, then duplicate this several times, offsetting each item to create the thickness. It is very clunky, but if you’re desperate it can work.


#16

@TYancy

He doesn’t want to create the 3D object in Hype … he wants to be able to manipulate one that has been imported in. e.g to be able to move the axis and look at the object like you would in say … blender.

Good “trick” for creating a 3D looking object though.


(Trey Yancy) #17

If the real deal can’t be achieved, this is a way to address the issue.

One other AE trick - that might be used in Hype - is to create individual faces for an object like a cube. offset and rotate the faces into position, then place this within an object and rotate the object. (In AE one would create a null object to serve as a parent and rotate the null.) This can be used for buildings, etc.


(Lucky) #18

Hype is based off dom elements not canvas or webgl so it runs fast on old devices. I don’t think this will be implemented for this reason, if you want to be able to do 3d animation in web you may need to look into three.js or if you want a visual version look at Unity and the web Unity player


(Trey Yancy) #19

Hype on its own makes a noble attempt at 3-D, accounting for relative vanishing point and such. My first attempt was a darkroom look with photos clothes-pinned to a curved horizontal string. Move the mouse across to make individual photos swing, compounded by having the string swing very slightly. The perspective was not perfect but after taming the action a bit, it looked great.

For many, the best solution is to create the 3D elsewhere and bring it in as a video. Along those lines, one thing that might bea nice addition to Hype would be to emulate what Flash can do in embedding a video, which makes it easy to control the video various actions (such as a seamless loop that can also be used as a transition.


(Tito Rod) #20

Can do this animation with javascript? Without timeline?