Losing timeline actions on copy/paste symbols


(Rick) #1

Hi,

If I have an Hype document ‘A’ create timelines in there with timeline actions (those little blue 45 degree turned squared keyframes), turn that into a symbol, copy the symbol then paste the symbol in Hype document ‘B’, I get all the items in the symbol, including timelines but without the timeline actions like ‘pause’ etc.

Is that a bug or is that just the way things currently work? :slight_smile:


#2

I haven’t tried it myself with a symbol, but you could try ‘alt cmd V’ from the edit menu: Paste with animations


(Rick) #3

Well I just tried that, the animations copy over nicely, just not the timeline actions.

But ok, it’s something I know now, means little bit extra work.

Thank you for the suggestion :smile:


#4

well, it worked for me. Made the animation in untitled. turned it into a symbol. copied en pasted altcmdv in untitled2.

Archief.zip (22.0 KB)


(Rick) #5

Hhmmm, ‘archief’… You’re Dutch or Belgian perhaps?

Did you add any timeline actions in your example? Like where my arrows aim at:

If not I’m going serious bonkers here.


#6

Dutch.
I did not have any diamonds to be copied. I tried that but it doesn’t seem to work. You need to copy them separately.


(Jonathan Deutsch) #7

When elements are converted to a symbol, timeline actions are not carried over. This is expected behavior; not all timeline actions necessarily relate to what will be in the symbol.

I didn’t see any timeline actions in these files (neither in the symbol nor in the scene)?

Also do make sure you are using 3.5.3; I believe there was a bug in earlier versions of 3.5 with copying some timeline actions.


(Rick) #8

Well you live and learn I guess. That those timeline actions don’t transfer over is something I can live with, though I had hoped a bit as it being a ‘container’ it contained everything. It is a bit annoying I cannot break a symbol back open if I’m not very, very careful.

Just lost a day today because I copied a symbol over to another scene in the same Hype document and started editing it, only checking that scene because the previous ones where ok, then when I wanted to pack it in for today, I review my entire document and see that the edit in the copy of symbol copied over in the other scene.

Teehehehee… sigh.
At least I won’t make that mistake again. /o\


(Jonathan Deutsch) #9

Yeah, I hear you. There’s a lot about symbols where it is impossible to automatically understand a user’s intent on construction/deconstruction given the complexity of symbols and how they interact with the document. We debated a lot of strategies, possibility of having guiding dialogs, etc., but in general always found Hype would be likely to do the wrong thing for a lot of cases or add complexity that isn’t necessary a lot of the time.

However, I do think that if the timeline actions are made within a symbol, those should be carried over. So if you’re seeing that they are not maybe you could provide a screen capture of this flow? The documents didn’t have timeline actions, so there wasn’t much to go on.